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Editing features overlap between Rawtherapee and GIMP - plumbergp - 06-30-2019

Installed Rawtherapee recently for editing raw nikon files. It can do a lot of things available in GIMP.

Instead of using Rawtherapee first and then GIMP on editing an image, prefer to just stick to GIMP.

If GIMP has editing work scope of 8 (0-10), where is Rawtherapee?

Hope one day, one can import raw file directly into GIMP.

Thanks.

RE: Editing features overlap between Rawtherapee and GIMP - Ofnuts - 06-30-2019

RT (and others...) is a lot more photo-oriented than Gimp. They are also non-destructive, they store the process, not its result, so
  • you can figure out what you did,
  • you can go back partially in the process history to change the process without redoing everything
  • you can easily apply the same process to more photos (for a panorama, for instance)
To import a raw file, you will always need plugins (importing any file type in Gimp is done by a plugin). So the only question is how complex the plugin should be. RT is a full application masquerading as a plugin, there are simpler ones (NufRaw...).

RE: Editing features overlap between Rawtherapee and GIMP - rich2005 - 06-30-2019

It is a matter of personal preference. Ofnuts has a good point about the non-destructive capabilities of RT. However, in my opinion, both RT and Darktable have appalling interfaces,

If you just need to get an image into Gimp then nufraw has the simplest interface. Unfortunately the standalone Windows latest nufraw package still does not integrate into a gimp.org Gimp (just tried it - NBG). The Partha Gimp 2.10.12 has nufraw already integrated. http://www.partha.com

Something like this, Select image from Gimp, choose 16 bit output, ok it which then opens in Gimp (and a lot faster than RT) https://i.imgur.com/FOsZynh.jpg

RE: Editing features overlap between Rawtherapee and GIMP - plumbergp - 06-30-2019

(06-30-2019, 07:51 AM)Ofnuts Wrote: RT (and others...) is a lot more photo-oriented than Gimp. They are also non-destructive, they store the process, not its result, so
  • you can figure out what you did,
  • you can go back partially in the process history to change the process without redoing everything
  • you can easily apply the same process to more photos (for a panorama, for instance)
To import a raw file, you will always need plugins (importing any file type in Gimp is done by a plugin). So the only question is how complex the plugin should be. RT is a full application masquerading as a plugin, there are simpler ones (NufRaw...).
Noted and thanks. New to RT.
(06-30-2019, 08:47 AM)rich2005 Wrote: It is a matter of personal preference. Ofnuts has a good point about the non-destructive capabilities of RT. However, in my opinion, both RT and Darktable have appalling interfaces,

If you just need to get an image into Gimp then nufraw has the simplest interface. Unfortunately the standalone Windows latest nufraw package still does not integrate into a gimp.org Gimp (just tried it - NBG). The Partha Gimp 2.10.12 has nufraw already integrated. http://www.partha.com

Something like this, Select image from Gimp, choose 16 bit output, ok it which then opens in Gimp (and a lot faster than RT)  https://i.imgur.com/FOsZynh.jpg
Thanks. Tried nufraw and it did not work with GIMP. Thus searched, studied and compared RT and Darktable. Decided on RT and installed it.

Playing around with RT with GIMP. The handshake/link between the 2 is pretty smart and smooth. Impressed with RT.

So my current plan is to use RT for raw files, do the basic image quality stuff (white balance, chromatic, exposure, noise, sharpen, etc) and then pass it to GIMP for other work like layers.

Lots of tutorials to go through! Ha.

RE: Editing features overlap between Rawtherapee and GIMP - rich2005 - 06-30-2019

Quote:....Thanks. Tried nufraw and it did not work with GIMP. Thus searched, studied and compared RT and Darktable. Decided on RT and installed it....

Nufraw - Did not work generally or did not work with your nikon RAW format?

It does work with Gimp see: https://www.gimp-forum.net/Thread-nufraw-for-Windows-and-Gimp-2-10-64-bit?pid=14097#pid14097

RE: Editing features overlap between Rawtherapee and GIMP - plumbergp - 06-30-2019

(06-30-2019, 01:17 PM)rich2005 Wrote:
Quote:....Thanks. Tried nufraw and it did not work with GIMP. Thus searched, studied and compared RT and Darktable. Decided on RT and installed it....

Nufraw - Did not work generally or did not work with your nikon RAW format?

It does work with Gimp see: https://www.gimp-forum.net/Thread-nufraw-for-Windows-and-Gimp-2-10-64-bit?pid=14097#pid14097

Tried it with my nikon nef file. Forgot what was error message now.

RE: Editing features overlap between Rawtherapee and GIMP - rich2005 - 06-30-2019

(06-30-2019, 01:27 PM)plumbergp Wrote:
Quote:Nufraw - Did not work generally or did not work with your nikon RAW format?

It does work with Gimp see: https://www.gimp-forum.net/Thread-nufraw-for-Windows-and-Gimp-2-10-64-bit?pid=14097#pid14097

Tried it with my nikon nef file. Forgot what was error message now.

For others that might come across this thread. Nufraw will open a NEF file, just tried both Windows and linux. Best guess OP not using suitable version of nufraw.

RT is a great application but for something lighter, there is always nufraw.