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GIMP 2.10 - Disable (Ctrl + MMB) Zoom??? - chippy - 07-26-2021
I liked Gimp 2.8, but have upgraded to Gimp 2.10 thinking it would preserve the original functionality but I am finding it to be extremely difficult to use.
Especially the way Gimp 2.10 forces the zoom mode when pressing ctrl + MMB.
How can I disable this and go back to ctrl + MMB to simply pan the image?
I can find no option, no forums discussions, no hacks or any way to disable this useless feature and it has absolutely killed my efficiency. Also this new canvas rotation feature is forced always on and is a similar conflicting hotkey which also destroys efficiency - I never once needed rotate canvas but now I keep rotating my canvas and it is horrible. I just want simple controls, or a way to disable these truly awful hotkey assignments.
In my opinion "more is not always better" especially when the developer forgets to add options to turn it off.
I am using gimp less now because of this horrible UX. It makes me very upset to see such a poorly designed update. I am at the point I just want to downgrade back to 2.8 and start moving away from Gimp entirely - It feels like Adobe is paying the developers of Gimp to degenerate the tool so to eliminate the competition - forget about donating to Gimp anymore, it is going backwards and losing its edge (just like so many other free software).
Just wanted to voice my frustrations because I know it would take a competent developer less than an hour to add options to shut off these ridiculous new-age features.
RE: GIMP 2.10 - Disable (Ctrl + MMB) Zoom??? - PixLab - 07-26-2021
EDIT:
I answered before reading this
"I am using gimp less now because of this horrible UX. It makes me very upset to see such a poorly designed update. I am at the point I just want to downgrade back to 2.8 and start moving away from Gimp entirely - It feels like Adobe is paying the developers of Gimp to degenerate the tool so to eliminate the competition - forget about donating to Gimp anymore, it is going backwards and losing its edge (just like so many other free software).
KEEP Your rant for yourself = I removed my answers!
RE: GIMP 2.10 - Disable (Ctrl + MMB) Zoom??? - chippy - 07-26-2021
(07-26-2021, 11:55 AM)PixLab Wrote: simply pan the image?
To pan middle mouse wheel click,stay clicked move the mouse, or even more simplest stay on the space bar and move the mouse
Ctrl + MMB ?? you can hit 2 times the key "M"?
I don't understand your alternative suggestions, further they are not intuitive. I just want simple control back like was in previous version.
And I tried double tapping "M" key as you recommend, but when I press Ctrl + MMB I still see zoom tool and the image zooms instead of pans, no way to shut this off that I can find.
RE: GIMP 2.10 - Disable (Ctrl + MMB) Zoom??? - rich2005 - 07-26-2021
@chippy
This is a user forum. No developers visit here.
The place for bug reports / complaints / enhancement suggestions is gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/-/issues
Although I have to say, I have both a Gimp 2.10 and a Gimp 2.8 installed and cannot see any difference between them.
Ctrl-with scroll wheel rotate zooms / ctrl-middle-mouse-button pans
Maybe it is a Windows thing.
RE: GIMP 2.10 - Disable (Ctrl + MMB) Zoom??? - Ofnuts - 07-26-2021
(07-26-2021, 11:47 AM)chippy Wrote: I liked Gimp 2.8, but have upgraded to Gimp 2.10 thinking it would preserve the original functionality but I am finding it to be extremely difficult to use.
Especially the way Gimp 2.10 forces the zoom mode when pressing ctrl + MMB.
How can I disable this and go back to ctrl + MMB to simply pan the image?
I can find no option, no forums discussions, no hacks or any way to disable this useless feature and it has absolutely killed my efficiency.
Possibly because you never needed to depress the Control key. Middle-button and drag is enough to pan with the mouse in 2.18 as well as in 2.10. So nobody is missing something that has never been there and the stuff that exists in 2.8 still exists in 2.10.
(07-26-2021, 11:47 AM)chippy Wrote: Also this new canvas rotation feature is forced always on and is a similar conflicting hotkey which also destroys efficiency - I never once needed rotate canvas but now I keep rotating my canvas and it is horrible. I just want simple controls, or a way to disable these truly awful hotkey assignments.
In my opinion "more is not always better" especially when the developer forgets to add options to turn it off.
No idea, but resetting to origin is just hitting !.
(07-26-2021, 11:47 AM)chippy Wrote: I am using gimp less now because of this horrible UX. It makes me very upset to see such a poorly designed update. I am at the point I just want to downgrade back to 2.8 and start moving away from Gimp entirely - It feels like Adobe is paying the developers of Gimp to degenerate the tool so to eliminate the competition - forget about donating to Gimp anymore, it is going backwards and losing its edge (just like so many other free software).
Yes, Adobe paid the developers to add high bit depth and on-canvas preview for many filters, among other things.
(07-26-2021, 11:47 AM)chippy Wrote: Just wanted to voice my frustrations because I know it would take a competent developer less than an hour to add options to shut off these ridiculous new-age features.
If you know and are correct, then you are a competent developer, then it takes you less than one hour to do it and recompile your version and possibly share a patch with the authors.
RE: GIMP 2.10 - Disable (Ctrl + MMB) Zoom??? - Ofnuts - 07-26-2021
(07-26-2021, 12:50 PM)rich2005 Wrote: Although I have to say, I have both a Gimp 2.10 and a Gimp 2.8 installed and cannot see any difference between them.
Ctrl-with scroll wheel rotate zooms / ctrl-middle-mouse-button pans
Maybe it is a Windows thing.
Weird. On my 2.10 Ctrl-MMB indeed zooms. But panning has always been MMB alone.
RE: GIMP 2.10 - Disable (Ctrl + MMB) Zoom??? - rich2005 - 07-26-2021
Maybe it is the way I described it. Ctrl-MMB invokes the zoom tool here. Then mouse movement zooms. Ctrl-scroll wheel rotate zooms with mouse stationary. Then yes, MMB + mouse movement scrolls (so does space bar of course)