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GIMP Won't Launch - Piz - 08-31-2021

Just like the title says. I click to launch GIMP and it either appears to do nothing or it flashes the title screen and starts loading stuff then quits after a second or two.

So far, I have:
  • Restarted my machine.
  • Uninstalled and reinstalled, with and without Revo Uninstaller.
  • Manually renamed my GIMP folder in AppData.
  • Manually deleted my GIMP folder in AppData.
  • Manually deleted all GIMP folders in AppData.
  • Re-downloaded the installer.
  • Done all of the above, AFAIK, in all combinations.
My most recent attempt was uninstalling with Revo, manually deleting all the GIMP folders I could find in AppData (it creates one in Local as well as the primary one in Roaming; Local only has a folder for crash logs, which don't appear), rebooting, and installing with Revo. GIMP launched and ran for perhaps an hour, then crashed and will not launch again. That has happened multiple times trying the same sequence.

I'm running:
  • GIMP 2.10.24
  • Windows 10 Pro 19043.1165
  • Asus ZenBook 13, 12Gb

Thanks for any and all help!


RE: GIMP Won't Launch - rich2005 - 08-31-2021

Quote:Local only has a folder for crash logs, which don't appear), rebooting, and installing with Revo. GIMP launched and ran for perhaps an hour, then crashed and will not launch again. That has happened multiple times trying the same sequence.

Not much more you can do, that has not already been done. It is most probably a hardware issue, maybe memory, however you might get some insight if you run Gimp from a terminal. Gimp will output a lot of messages using the --verbose switch but then I do not know if it is possible with a one hour from-opening-to-crash. It will be a long list.

Some hints here: https://youtu.be/6FdesUbV1WY might/might-not help.


RE: GIMP Won't Launch - Piz - 09-01-2021

(08-31-2021, 04:43 PM)rich2005 Wrote: Not much more you can do, that has not already been done. It is most probably a hardware issue, maybe memory, however you might get some insight if you run Gimp from a terminal. Gimp will output a lot of messages using the --verbose switch but then I do not know if it is possible with a one hour from-opening-to-crash. It will be a long list.

Some hints here:  https://youtu.be/6FdesUbV1WY  might/might-not help.

I ran GIMP with --verbose and captured the output. It just ends at the point the app crashes. No error messages:

Parsing 'C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\etc\gimp\2.0\gimprc' for configured language.
Parsing 'C:\Users\piz\AppData\Roaming\GIMP\2.10\gimprc' for configured language.
No language property found.
INIT: gimp_load_config
Parsing 'C:\Users\piz\AppData\Roaming\GIMP\2.10\unitrc'
Parsing 'C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\etc\gimp\2.0\gimprc'
Parsing 'C:\Users\piz\AppData\Roaming\GIMP\2.10\gimprc'
Adding icon theme 'Color' (C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\icons\Color)
Adding icon theme 'Legacy' (C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\icons\Legacy)
Adding icon theme 'Symbolic' (C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\icons\Symbolic)
Adding icon theme 'Symbolic-High-Contrast' (C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\icons\Symbolic-High-Contrast)
Adding icon theme 'Symbolic-Inverted' (C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\icons\Symbolic-Inverted)
Adding icon theme 'Symbolic-Inverted-High-Contrast' (C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\icons\Symbolic-Inverted-High-Contrast)
Loading icon theme 'Color'
Adding theme 'Dark' (C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\themes\Dark)
Adding theme 'Gray' (C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\themes\Gray)
Adding theme 'Light' (C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\themes\Light)
Adding theme 'System' (C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\themes\System)
Writing 'C:\Users\piz\AppData\Roaming\GIMP\2.10\themerc'
INIT: gimp_initialize
INIT: gimp_real_initialize
Parsing 'C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\lib\gimp\2.0\interpreters\default.interp'
Parsing 'C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\lib\gimp\2.0\interpreters\pygimp.interp'
Parsing 'C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\lib\gimp\2.0\environ\default.env'
Parsing 'C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\lib\gimp\2.0\environ\pygimp.env'
INIT: gui_initialize_after_callback
INIT: gimp_restore
Parsing 'C:\Users\piz\AppData\Roaming\GIMP\2.10\parasiterc'
Loading 'brush factory' data
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Basic\1-pixel.vbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Basic\Block-01.vbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Basic\Block-02.vbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Basic\Block-03.vbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Basic\Hardness-025.vbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Basic\Hardness-050.vbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Basic\Hardness-075.vbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Basic\Hardness-100.vbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Basic\pixel.gbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Basic\Star.vbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Fun\GEGL-goat.gih
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Fun\pepper.gbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Fun\Wilber.gih
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\10x10square.gbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\10x10squareBlur.gbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\20x20square.gbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\20x20squareBlur.gbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\5x5square.gbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\5x5squareBlur.gbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\Calligraphic-Brush-0.vbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\Calligraphic-Brush-1.vbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\Calligraphic-Brush-2.vbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\Calligraphic-Brush-3.vbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\Circle-1.vbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\Circle-11.vbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\Circle-13.vbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\Circle-15.vbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\Circle-17.vbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\Circle-19.vbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\Circle-3.vbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\Circle-5.vbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\Circle-7.vbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\Circle-9.vbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\Circle-Fuzzy-11.vbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\Circle-Fuzzy-13.vbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\Circle-Fuzzy-15.vbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\Circle-Fuzzy-17.vbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\Circle-Fuzzy-19.vbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\Circle-Fuzzy-3.vbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\Circle-Fuzzy-5.vbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\Circle-Fuzzy-7.vbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\Circle-Fuzzy-9.vbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\Diagonal-Star-11.vbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\Diagonal-Star-17.vbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\Diagonal-Star-25.vbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\dunes.gbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\feltpen.gih
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\galaxy-big.gbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\galaxy.gbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\galaxy_small.gbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\Grass1.gih
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\pepper.gbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\pixel.gbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\SketchBrush-16.gih
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\SketchBrush-32.gih
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\SketchBrush-64.gih
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\gimp-obsolete-files\Structure.gbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Legacy\confetti.gbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Legacy\confetti.gih
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Legacy\vine.gih
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Media\Acrylic-01.gih
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Media\Acrylic-02.gih
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Media\Acrylic-03.gih
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Media\Acrylic-04.gih
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Media\Acrylic-05.gih
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Media\Bristles-01.gbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Media\Bristles-02.gbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Media\Bristles-03.gbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Media\Oils-01.gbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Media\Oils-02.gbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Media\Oils-03.gbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Sketch\Chalk-01.gih
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Sketch\Chalk-02.gih
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Sketch\Chalk-03.gih
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Sketch\Charcoal-01.gbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Sketch\Charcoal-02.gbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Sketch\Charcoal-03.gih
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Sketch\Pencil-01.gih
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Sketch\Pencil-02.gih
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Sketch\Pencil-03.gih
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Sketch\Pencil-Scratch.gbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Splatters\Grunge-01.gih
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Splatters\Sparks-Hose.gih
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Splatters\Splats-01.gih
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Splatters\Splats-02.gih
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Splatters\Sponge-01.gbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Splatters\Sponge-02.gbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Texture\Cell-01.gbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Texture\Cell-02.gbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Texture\Grass.gih
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Texture\Hatch-Pen-01.gbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Texture\Smoke.gbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Texture\Stone-Work-01.gih
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Texture\Texture-01.gbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Texture\Texture-02.gbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Texture\Texture-Hose-01.gih
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Texture\Texture-Hose-02.gih
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Texture\Texture-Hose-03.gih
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Texture\Vegetation-01.gbr
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\brushes\Texture\Vegetation-02.gih
Loading 'dynamics factory' data
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\dynamics\Basic\Basic-Simple.gdyn
  Loading C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\dynamics\Basic\Dynamics-Random.gdyn

I ran the installer again after that, without uninstalling first, and got the exact same output except the last line above wasn't there. I have no clue what's going on.


RE: GIMP Won't Launch - rich2005 - 09-01-2021

The log I generated yesterday is the same up to the point of your crash.
There are various bug reports with similar subject, example: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/-/issues/6802

The problem is no error messages. You could post a bug report on https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/-/issues but do not hold your breath for a solution.

There are a couple gimp command line switches that you could try (invoke same as --verbose)
-------
--no-cpu-accel
Do not use special CPU acceleration functions. Useful for finding or disabling buggy accelerated hardware or functions.

-d, --no-data
Do not load patterns, gradients, palettes, or brushes. Often useful in non-interactive situations where start-up time is to be minimized.
------
Might get more info, otherwise

Clutching at straws, in case it is the latest Gimp, have you tried an earlier version, maybe Gimp 2.10.14 which was fairly stable.

Previous versions here: https://download.gimp.org/mirror/pub/gimp/v2.10/


RE: GIMP Won't Launch - Ofnuts - 09-02-2021

If Gimp crashes when loading the brush dynamics ("gdyn" files), try moving them outside of Gimp's reach and see of the problem persists.


RE: GIMP Won't Launch - Piz - 09-03-2021

(09-01-2021, 08:10 AM)rich2005 Wrote: The log I generated yesterday is the same up to the point of your crash.
There are various bug reports with similar subject, example: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/-/issues/6802

The problem is no error messages. You could post a bug report on https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/-/issues but do not hold your breath for a solution.

There are a couple gimp command line switches that you could try (invoke same as --verbose)
-------
--no-cpu-accel
Do not use special CPU acceleration functions. Useful for finding or disabling buggy accelerated hardware or functions.

-d, --no-data
Do not load patterns, gradients, palettes, or brushes. Often useful in non-interactive situations where start-up time is to be minimized.
------
Might get more info, otherwise

Clutching at straws, in case it is the latest Gimp, have you tried an earlier version, maybe Gimp 2.10.14 which was fairly stable.

Previous versions here: https://download.gimp.org/mirror/pub/gimp/v2.10/

Turns out there were a lot of GIMP-related registry entries left over after uninstalling, even using Revo. I manually deleted all of them except one or two that regedit wouldn't let me delete, reinstalled 2.10.24, and it seems to be working now. No idea which of those entries were responsible for the problem.

If the problem returns, I'll update here.

Thanks for all the help!


RE: GIMP Won't Launch - Piz - 09-12-2021

Aaaaaaand... It's back.

Literally just happened. I'm just noting - it's back to the behavior in the OP. I'll update once I investigate.


RE: GIMP Won't Launch - Piz - 09-14-2021

(09-12-2021, 04:14 PM)Piz Wrote: Aaaaaaand... It's back.

Literally just happened. I'm just noting - it's back to the behavior in the OP. I'll update once I investigate.

Aaaaaaand... Today it's working. Only thing that could have made a difference is that I rebooted between the above and now. I'll keep digging.


RE: GIMP Won't Launch - Piz - 09-24-2021

(09-14-2021, 01:42 AM)Piz Wrote:
(09-12-2021, 04:14 PM)Piz Wrote: Aaaaaaand... It's back.

Literally just happened. I'm just noting - it's back to the behavior in the OP. I'll update once I investigate.

Aaaaaaand... Today it's working. Only thing that could have made a difference is that I rebooted between the above and now. I'll keep digging.

I installed v2.10.28 last night and the problem appeared to go away for 4 or 5 launches, but then it returned. I'm still trying to isolate which registry entries to delete to fix it (see my previous comment about the registry).


RE: GIMP Won't Launch - Piz - 11-12-2021

(09-24-2021, 03:37 PM)Piz Wrote:
(09-14-2021, 01:42 AM)Piz Wrote:
(09-12-2021, 04:14 PM)Piz Wrote: Aaaaaaand... It's back.

Literally just happened. I'm just noting - it's back to the behavior in the OP. I'll update once I investigate.

Aaaaaaand... Today it's working. Only thing that could have made a difference is that I rebooted between the above and now. I'll keep digging.

I installed v2.10.28 last night and the problem appeared to go away for 4 or 5 launches, but then it returned. I'm still trying to isolate which registry entries to delete to fix it (see my previous comment about the registry).

I never found anything in the registry and the problem seems to be gone. It's been a week now without seeing it.