BIMP, install problem and curves with it

[PixLab]

Hi,

Good to know > I never really used BIMP, I'm a xnconvert guy (it has curves as well), and use exclusively Linux.

Having said that, I'm trying to implement batch process in a company, although I have to use do it with Xnview/xnConvert, and could implement this in no time, I would like to do it with GIMP/BIMP... just to have one software workflow (and a good license).

So, I'm trying to install BIMP on a M$ windows 7 with GIMP 2.10.32, downloaded directly from there https://alessandrofrancesconi.it/projects/bimp/ this seems to not gonna to happen, it says it cannot find where GIMP is installed (can't do screenshot now, it's week-end), tried many things, like browsing folders via the installer, tried to put that exe thing in the plug-in as well, this does not work as re-starting GIMP did not put it in the File > Batch Image Manipulation in the menu , nothing-nada..
Any thoughts?
BTW this windoz 7 is not my computer, it a computer from a staff I'm training for a company, yes I got full rights on that windoz 7

Another problem I did some try with BIMP and curves > this time on my computer (it's a *buntu 20.04, and yes I did clean the curves history after that screenshot, "Threshold" was the more impressive to clean )
I saved a curve setting named test

   

then in BIMP > add another procedure > search for "curves" input "test",  

   

and as a result...
I got something from another world... I'm sure it's even from another galaxy, literally unusable image

   

What am I doing wrong?

[rich2005]

The Widows BIMP is 32 bit (for compatibility) and the installer buries it in C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\lib\gimp\2.0\plug-ins You can from the source page download just the ...exe plugin and put in the Gimp user profile  edit: thought you could but not there now 

maybe 32 bit is the problem on the company system.

To apply a colour correction curve using BIMP. My two euros worth.

Export a typical curve from Gimp. The default destination is in the Gimp user profile. I usually put somewhere more convenient. Any name does. It is a text file.

   

In BIMP
Use the built-in procedure Color Correction and chose the curve.

   

Other ways: BIMP can call the gmic plugin. Various options there. It is possible to apply a CLUT to the images.

Edit: just loaded up a Win7 64 bit VM / Gimp 2.10.32 Installed BIMP. Moved the bimp plugin to the user plugins folder. Seems to be working here, at least it shows in the menu and opens.

[Ofnuts]

(10-08-2022, 08:20 AM)PixLab Wrote: Another problem I did some try with BIMP and curves > this time on my computer (it's a *buntu 20.04, and yes I did clean the curves history after that screenshot, "Threshold" was the more impressive to clean )
I saved a curve setting named test

See my ofn-settings-cleaner script. It runs on every startup and cleans off the stored settings (settable criteria are a combination of age and count). Named settings (those that you save explicitly) are of course preserved.

[PixLab]

(10-08-2022, 09:07 AM)rich2005 Wrote: The Widows BIMP is 32 bit (for compatibility) and the installer buries it in C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\lib\gimp\2.0\plug-ins You can from the source page download just the ...exe plugin and put in the Gimp user profile  edit: thought you could but not there now 

maybe 32 bit is the problem on the company system.
Edit: just loaded up a Win7 64 bit VM / Gimp 2.10.32 Installed BIMP. Moved the bimp plugin to the user plugins folder. Seems to be working here, at least it shows in the menu and opens.

Thanks Rich, I'll look into it tomorrow

(10-08-2022, 09:07 AM)rich2005 Wrote: To apply a colour correction curve using BIMP. My two euros worth.
Export a typical curve from Gimp. The default destination is in the Gimp user profile. I usually put somewhere more convenient. Any name does. It is a text file.
In BIMP
Use the built-in procedure Color Correction and chose the curve.
Other ways: BIMP can call the gmic plugin. Various options there. It is possible to apply a CLUT to the images.

So this one gave me a lot works... (yes work-s plurial )  Did not work at all tried to rename even with extension....

Then after a while... the time it took for my tiny bulb to lights on, I checked the BIMP version I did have, it was 2.4, went back to the github, follow instruction to compile, then discovered I had a missing lib....  install it...

And now it works like a charm with the saved curves' file.  

Thank you so much Rich!

(10-08-2022, 05:18 PM)Ofnuts Wrote: See my ofn-settings-cleaner script. It runs on every startup and cleans off the stored settings (settable criteria are a combination of age and count). Named settings (those that you save explicitly) are of course preserved.

Wow that's super cool!

Did downloaded, opened the ofn-settings-cleaner.ini and saw you did put only ~40 filters to clean, and in my directory "filters" I had something like >110
thus I did some "check" and discovered few things that might be useful for your users if add it in your ofn-settings-cleaner.html / guide on "how to", as well as for the reader of this post to clean your own filters.

First thing if you never used a filter, it will not go inside that folder "filters", which could mean that a Ctrl+A > Delete will work for a brute reset/deletion of your settings and have a clean slate
   

But it also means that each of us has a different list of filters to clean.

Thus I opened terminal in that folders (filters) ("File > Open Terminal" while I'm in the filters' directory) then input

Code:

ls > all

this create a list of all filters name which I already use in a file called "all" (windows users better you put an extension like ".txt")
then I opened the "all" file with Pluma (a text editor), removed the "all" name on the top of the list and launch a search and replace
Search: \n
Replace: ]\n[
Note: \n is for "newline" , so what it does, it searches for newline mark (that we don't see), put a close square bracket, put the newline mark, and start the newline(next line) with an opening braquet
On windows I'm not sure if you need to add \r for the return carriage, if so \n become the new line feed? not sure so just telling to you windows users. you might want to search on google about: "CRLF" if \n does not work in the search/replace of your text editor

Once done I just have to input the first and the very last bracket once it's finished to replace
   

And Voila... my own list to clean and past in the ofn-settings-cleaner.ini (don't forget to delete the file "all" or whatever you named it in "filters")  
I did not cleaned/use it yet, though. I want to save some settings under a proper name first

Thank you so much Ofnuts for this script!

[rich2005]

BIMP: For any linux user try the binary I post here: https://www.gimp-forum.net/Thread-BIMP-version-2-6

Ever-Growing Files: I use the settings-cleaner since Gimp 2.8 days. Other files that will grow in Gimp user profile are 'action-history' and 'colorrc' I use a script to reset those.

[PixLab]

(10-09-2022, 02:33 PM)rich2005 Wrote: BIMP: For any linux user try the binary I post here: https://www.gimp-forum.net/Thread-BIMP-version-2-6

Ever-Growing Files: I use the settings-cleaner since Gimp 2.8 days. Other files that will grow in Gimp user profile are 'action-history' and 'colorrc' I use a script to reset those.

Thanks Rich, using it on my kids' MX Linux

rich2005 Wrote:The Widows BIMP is 32 bit (for compatibility) and the installer buries it in C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\lib\gimp\2.0\plug-ins You can from the source page download just the ...exe plugin and put in the Gimp user profile edit: thought you could but not there now

maybe 32 bit is the problem on the company system.

This is becoming a nightmare ,
I tried to re-install GIMP but this time with "Custom" to be sure that "Compatible with old plugin" was checked, this did not work at all (it took a lot longer to install though)
The problem is in this > C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\lib\gimp\2.0\plug-ins does not exist, there is no "GIMP" folder nor "GIMP 2" folder in "Program Files"

[rich2005]

Is it a company network problem ? Permissions ? Call the professionals, Ofnuts is best for advice.

Quote:The problem is in this > C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\lib\gimp\2.0\plug-ins does not exist, there is no "GIMP" folder nor "GIMP 2" folder in "Program Files"

AFAIK for a 64 bit Win 7 where there is both C:\Program Files and C:\Program Files (x86) Gimp always install to C:\Program Files even if 32 bit is forced. Just for info.

Back to basics

Open up: Edit -> Preferences -> Folders -> Plug-ins

Check on what is there: 

   

[Ofnuts]

(10-11-2022, 04:26 AM)PixLab Wrote:

(10-09-2022, 02:33 PM)rich2005 Wrote: BIMP: For any linux user try the binary I post here: https://www.gimp-forum.net/Thread-BIMP-version-2-6

Ever-Growing Files: I use the settings-cleaner since Gimp 2.8 days. Other files that will grow in Gimp user profile are 'action-history' and 'colorrc' I use a script to reset those.

Thanks Rich, using it on my kids' MX Linux

rich2005 Wrote:The Widows BIMP is 32 bit (for compatibility) and the installer buries it in C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\lib\gimp\2.0\plug-ins You can from the source page download just the ...exe plugin and put in the Gimp user profile  edit: thought you could but not there now

maybe 32 bit is the problem on the company system.

This is becoming a nightmare   ,
I tried to re-install GIMP but this time with "Custom" to be sure that "Compatible with old plugin" was checked, this did not work at all (it took a lot longer to install though)
The problem is in this > C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\lib\gimp\2.0\plug-ins does not exist, there is no "GIMP" folder nor "GIMP 2" folder in "Program Files"

IIRC in your task manager you can get the full path to running executables, so start Gimp and try to find it there.

[PixLab]

(10-11-2022, 07:26 AM)rich2005 Wrote: Is it a company network problem ? Permissions ? Call the professionals, Ofnuts is best for advice.

Quote:The problem is in this > C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\lib\gimp\2.0\plug-ins does not exist, there is no "GIMP" folder nor "GIMP 2" folder in "Program Files"

AFAIK for a 64 bit Win 7 where there is both C:\Program Files and C:\Program Files (x86) Gimp always install to C:\Program Files even if 32 bit is forced. Just for info.

Back to basics

Open up: Edit -> Preferences -> Folders -> Plug-ins

Check on what is there: 

Yeah.. the basic it's what I did in first place tried to put directly the .exe and also pass by the installer in each folders, even both at the same time  (which is stupid, I know, but it's Windows so...   ), nothing is working

   

I will look tomorrow into what said Ofnuts about the task manager, but I have no hopes (I might look pessimist, sorry about that today was a long day )

In all cases, thanks a lot Rich and Ofnuts for your help

[rich2005]

Silly question time

This company Windows 7 installation. Is it 32 bit or 64 bit ? If it is 64 bit does it have 32 bit bit support ?